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Good old CG. It understands the mapping correctly. I also like what it summarises in “Where this becomes especially powerful in relation to your recent work is this”.

Do you find that it stays too near the surface of the rabbit-hole? Because of this I found the “few directions” that it suggests not likely to move the dial. The “single thread” it talks about later is more promising but its passive phrasing doesn’t invite us to query why that is so and what could we do differently in that case.

For instance, deeper down we find spacious caves with many connecting passages. Wittgenstein sitting in one, contemplating a bottle full of flies, Dunbar in another thinking about gossip withering on the Tree of Knowledge, Dunbar and Weingrow watching a silent film, trying to imagine what the people who did choose a different world over and over were saying. And others.

There are other directions. I hope I don’t get tired and do bring back some.

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There seem to be at least a couple of things bubbling under your analysis of the two current real-life examples of organisations that seem to be putting frog soup on the menu.

The first one is the assumption that there is, or could be, a form of organisation that functions within the system while respecting the mētis of those who work there. I know that there are a few real-life organisations that seem worthwhile examples. I also know that corporations have a legal duty to maximise returns to shareholders. Their North Star is profit, not mētis, by conscious purpose and intentional design. Is it worth testing the assumption before investing too much effort on what may ultimately be fruitless?

The second underwater thought was prompted by your analysis of what gets in the way of an honest conversation in both examples. Given that as Carney (via Havel) reminds us that the naming comes first, it is useful to be clear on the obstacle to such naming. I was reminded of Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language”, and Frankfurt’s “On Bullshit”, and also Ace’s “How long has this been going on?” I’m very tempted to go down the rabbit hole at the centre of the triangle defined by those three. Bring me my ropes, and my cross of gold…

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